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COM50000 · Claims/reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back

  • COM50001 · Introduction
  • COM50010 · How COTAX treats carry-backs
  • COM50020 · Loss carry-back/late payment interest
  • COM50030 · Claims / reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: non-trading deficit c/b & late payment interest
  • COM50040 · Loss carry-back/repayment interest
  • COM50050 · Non-trading deficit c/back & repayment interest
  • COM50060 · Claims to surrender losses and deficits
  • COM50070 · Claims / reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: getting the ‘LOS’ posting correct
  • COM50072 · Claims / reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: getting the ‘LOS’ posting correct (Action Guide)
  • COM50080 · Changing the EDP
  • COM50081 · Claims / reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: forms: changing the EDP
  • COM50082 · Functions: changing the EDP
  • COM50083 · Changing the EDP (Action Guide)
  • COM50090 · Clerical interest indicator
  • COM50093 · Clerical interest indicator (Action Guide)
  • COM50091 · Forms: clerical interest indicator
  • COM50092 · Functions: clerical interest indicator
  • COM50100 · Order of loss processing
  • COM50103 · Order of loss processing (Action Guide)
  • COM50113 · Allowing the carry-back (Action Guide)
  • COM50120 · Multiple assessments or amendments
  • COM50122 · Multiple assessments or amendments (Action Guide)
  • COM50130 · Trade loss carry-back, leap year
  • COM50133 · Trade loss carry-back, leap year (Action Guide)
  • COM50021 · Legislation: loss carry-back/late payment interest
  • COM50061 · Legislation: claims to surrender losses and deficits
  • COM50071 · Functions: getting the ‘LOS’ posting correct
  • COM50101 · Forms: order of loss processing
  • COM50102 · Functions: order of loss processing
  • COM50121 · Functions: multiple assessments or amendments
  • COM50131 · Functions: trade loss carry-back, leap year
  • COM50132 · Legislation: trade loss carry-back, leap year
  1. Claims/reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: contents
  2. Claims/reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: how COTAX treats carry-backs

COM50010 | Claims/reliefs: loss and non-trading deficits carry-back: how COTAX treats carry-backs

From HM Revenue & Customs · COTAX Manual

COTAX treats a carry-back of trade losses or non-trading deficits as if it were a payment made on an Effective Date of Payment (EDP), (see Glossary for more information). It does not treat it as a reduction in the charge.

Subject to some limitations, it calculates the EDP and computes interest accordingly, taking account of the rules in:

  • S87A(6) Taxes Management Act (TMA) 1970

  • 87A(4A) TMA 1970

  • S826(7A) Income and Corporation Taxes Act (ICTA) 1988

  • S826(7C) ICTA 1988

  • S87A(7) TMA 1970

  • S826(7AA) TMA 1970

See COM50020, COM50030, COM50040, COM50050, COM153020 and COM153030 for more information.

Postings following a loss carry-back

COTAX handles the interest provisions of loss and non-trading deficit carry-backs as follows:

  • it calculates the tax effect of the carry-back (‘LOS’ posting in function VPPD (View Payment and Posting Details))

  • treats the tax effect of the carry-back as a payment made on the date on which the carry-back is effective for interest purposes, records this date as the effective date of payment (EDP) and applies it to the ‘LOS’ posting

  • reconciles the Accounting Period (AP) record by debiting to it an amendment or self assessment charge (‘SAM’ or ‘SAA’ in Function VPPD) equal to the amended charge plus the amount of the ‘LOS’ posting. The ‘SAM’ or ‘SAA’ figure is equal to the original charge before the carry-back was allowed

COTAX carries out the processing in the following order. It:

  • calculates the CT liability without the loss relief

  • compares that liability with the amount of CT due in the amendment or self assessment

  • records the difference as a ‘LOS’ posting

  • calculates the amended assessment amount ‘SAA’, or the self assessment amount ‘SAM’ by adding the amount of the ‘LOS’ posting to the actual amount of tax due on the amendment or the assessment

See example COM50014, illustrates this.

Every amendment you subsequently make to the assessment results in the reversal of those postings and the calculation of new ones.

In calculating the new postings, COTAX does not take account of any earlier postings, repayments, or versions of the assessment.

Because of this, COTAX sometimes miscalculates the ‘LOS’ posting unless you intervene.

Although COTAX does, with your assistance, get the amount of the ‘LOS’ posting right, there are still occasions when it can not cope with the interest consequences.

See:

  • COM50011 for a list of functions to use in particular situations

  • COM50012 for legislation applying to this subject

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