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CTM81500 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: periods up to 27 October 2021

  • CTM81502 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: outline: periods up to 27 October 2021
  • CTM81505 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: companies affected
  • CTM81510 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: overview
  • CTM81515 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the equivalence condition
  • CTM81520 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the EEA tax loss condition
  • CTM81525 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition
  • CTM81530 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition: current & previous periods
  • CTM81535 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition: future periods
  • CTM81540 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition: not otherwise given
  • CTM81545 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the precedence condition
  • CTM81550 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the unallowable loss rule
  • CTM81555 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: unallowable losses and arrangements
  • CTM81560 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation
  • CTM81565 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: residence
  • CTM81570 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: accounting periods
  • CTM81575 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: capital allowances
  • CTM81580 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: intangible assets
  • CTM81585 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: loan relationships & derivative contracts
  • CTM81590 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: comparison of UK and overseas loss
  • CTM81591 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: comparison of UK and overseas loss: information to be provided by claimant company
  • CTM81595 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: UK recomputation: life assurance companies
  • CTM81600 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: claims in respect of overseas losses of non resident companies: overview
  • CTM81605 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: claims in respect of overseas losses of non-resident companies: enquiries
  • CTM81610 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: examples: the precedence condition
  • CTM81620 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: example: the qualifying loss condition
  • CTM81625 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: examples: comparison of UK and EEA loss
  • CTM81506 · Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: commencement
  1. Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: periods up to 27 October 2021: contents
  2. Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition: future periods

CTM81535 | Groups: group relief: surrendering company not UK resident: amount of the loss: the qualifying loss condition: future periods

From HM Revenue & Customs · Company Taxation Manual

CTA10/S119

There are four conditions, which must be satisfied before a loss arising in a 75% subsidiary resident in another European Economic Area (EEA) territory will be available for group relief in the UK, (CTM81510). The third of these is the ‘qualifying loss condition’ (CTM81525), which in turn has three conditions which need to be met.

The second of these conditions is the loss:

’cannot be relieved in future periods in the EEA territory in which the subsidiary is resident’.

This second condition looks at the availability of relief for future periods and for a claim to be accepted the loss must be capable of being characterised as ‘definitive’, meaning that it is final and incapable of being offset. This test is to be applied immediately after the end of the period in which the loss arises. At that point in time it is necessary to determine that there is no possibility that the loss will ever be taken into account or otherwise be given as relief for any person.

If the non-resident company continues to trade and/or receives income, no matter how minimal, there is still a possibility of offsetting its losses and the loss sustained in the EEA accounting period cannot be regarded as definitive. It is irrelevant that with hindsight, the loss was ultimately not relieved.

Example

If a company has made a loss in its EEA territory of residence but at the year end it continues to exist, either trading or with other sources of income, into the next period and there is a possibility that relief may arise in a later period, against trading or other profits then the loss cannot be surrendered. If, as a matter of fact, no profits arose before the carry forward of relief became time barred, this does not alter the position that the loss was carried forward and might have been given as relief. This is a distinct test applied to the situation existing at the time of loss and does not interact with the two-year time limit for claims to group relief, which remains unchanged.

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